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I figured this would be a good place to ask as we wheelers encounter loggers or logged trails often.

What are the laws in MA regarding logging. I'm only talking about going out and taking a few standing (prefably dead) trees a year for firewood. I'm also talking about "public lands" state forest, etc.

Scott wrote:I figured this would be a good place to ask as we wheelers encounter loggers or logged trails often.

What are the laws in MA regarding logging. I'm only talking about going out and taking a few standing (prefably dead) trees a year for firewood. I'm also talking about "public lands" state forest, etc.

I would like you to rethink your idea with this in mind: Talk to your local EPO/DCR/WMA representative and explain that you would like to go into their "wilderness designated area" and remove only trees that are blowdowns,or deadfell trees.

They will go on to explain that the fell trees are providing new habitat areas for wildlife.

I've asked why the state does not produce cordwood from the fell trees from storms, beavers, or deadfell, and have been given similar answer. I felt I would ask because state parks say they don't get enough funding for maintainance or lifeguard, yet there is much cordwood that could allow self support for such necessities. Beavers only drop hardwood, so it's easy to sort.

Good luck.

They're logging the fawk out of October Mt state forest right now.

Personally, I'd take enough for a camp fire maybe, wouldn't touch nothing else, especially standing trees.

There used to be a program for this but it was done away with because it was abused.

I would just start carrying a saw and cutting as you go on trial rides. You'll have your home heating needs taken care of in no time

Come to this.
http://forum.nea4wd.org/viewtopic.php?t=2969

Paul wrote:They're logging the fawk out of October Mt state forest right now.

Personally, I'd take enough for a camp fire maybe, wouldn't touch nothing else, especially standing trees.

I would believe they're logging for lumber use, not cordwood. I was describing the trees that are already down, that would be great for firewood.

Thanks .

JayZR2 wrote:Come to this.
http://forum.nea4wd.org/viewtopic.php?t=2969

I thought about it, It's kinda far for me to take my P/U for one load of wood. If I had an HD trailer to load also then it might be worth it.
It's also my anniversary on the 16th. My wife would kill me for the insurance $.

jsongy wrote:

Scott wrote:I figured this would be a good place to ask as we wheelers encounter loggers or logged trails often.

What are the laws in MA regarding logging. I'm only talking about going out and taking a few standing (prefably dead) trees a year for firewood. I'm also talking about "public lands" state forest, etc.

I would like you to rethink your idea with this in mind: Talk to your local EPO/DCR/WMA representative and explain that you would like to go into their "wilderness designated area" and remove only trees that are blowdowns,or deadfell trees.

They will go on to explain that the fell trees are providing new habitat areas for wildlife.

I've asked why the state does not produce cordwood from the fell trees from storms, beavers, or deadfell, and have been given similar answer. I felt I would ask because state parks say they don't get enough funding for maintainance or lifeguard, yet there is much cordwood that could allow self support for such necessities. Beavers only drop hardwood, so it's easy to sort.

Good luck.

the greenies that want wilderness are also the ones who love wildfires (some because they think its good for nature, and others because the wildfires usually burn nearby homeowners out of their precious woods) so logging always reduces the fuel for this magnificent tool. if the state had large scale lumber activity on a regular basis i think they would receive a lot of political opposition. im sure the state has had an earfull regarding october mtn as well.

in california, i read that 87% (IIRC) of all forest thinning plans on public lands get challenged in court by green activists, who win a large number of the cases. thats how they keep all those sweet wildfires going. not many other ways to keep wealthy people from living wherever the hell they want to.

and heaven forbid if your house burns down and the zoning changed just a decade ago.

mike_belben wrote:

jsongy wrote:

Scott wrote:I figured this would be a good place to ask as we wheelers encounter loggers or logged trails often.

What are the laws in MA regarding logging. I'm only talking about going out and taking a few standing (prefably dead) trees a year for firewood. I'm also talking about "public lands" state forest, etc.

I would like you to rethink your idea with this in mind: Talk to your local EPO/DCR/WMA representative and explain that you would like to go into their "wilderness designated area" and remove only trees that are blowdowns,or deadfell trees.

They will go on to explain that the fell trees are providing new habitat areas for wildlife.

I've asked why the state does not produce cordwood from the fell trees from storms, beavers, or deadfell, and have been given similar answer. I felt I would ask because state parks say they don't get enough funding for maintainance or lifeguard, yet there is much cordwood that could allow self support for such necessities. Beavers only drop hardwood, so it's easy to sort.

Good luck.

the greenies that want wilderness are also the ones who love wildfires (some because they think its good for nature, and others because the wildfires usually burn nearby homeowners out of their precious woods) so logging always reduces the fuel for this magnificent tool. if the state had large scale lumber activity on a regular basis i think they would receive a lot of political opposition. im sure the state has had an earfull regarding october mtn as well.

in california, i read that 87% (IIRC) of all forest thinning plans on public lands get challenged in court by green activists, who win a large number of the cases. thats how they keep all those sweet wildfires going. not many other ways to keep wealthy people from living wherever the hell they want to.

and heaven forbid if your house burns down and the zoning changed just a decade ago.

That is exactly what the greenies want is control of people. They could care less about saving the forests. You can see that when they allow excess fuel to be left in the woods to help wildfires burn out of control. The environmental movement is just a tool to control people.

jsongy wrote:

Paul wrote:They're logging the fawk out of October Mt state forest right now.

Personally, I'd take enough for a camp fire maybe, wouldn't touch nothing else, especially standing trees.

I would believe they're logging for lumber use, not cordwood. I was describing the trees that are already down, that would be great for firewood.

Thanks .

Interestingly, up north there is a energy plant that used to burn wasted which is now burning wood chips. you will notice a shortage of vermont and NH hard wood this year I suspect. loads coming down to our area SE ma are slow. much of the wood is being chipped with full tree chippers to accomodate the need of the plant. prices are also going up on a weekly basis as demand for winter fuel is cranking up.

yeah, welcome to new england.