Anonymous wrote:Thats a big undertaking that would take a lot of man hours IMO.
I wonder if you are dreaming to big? I am thinking contacting them about policing/mantaining and showing the tourism it could bring might be beneficial in keeping the road itself from being clossed.
I can't help but wonder if drawing to much attention to a fairly quite (rarelly used) trail would make Abbot round two.
Treasurer wrote:Here is my thought on the matter. If you want to do more to the land than just ride the exisiting roads you need to be prepared to show that landowner other land we have permission to use and maintain the land.
You need to have a landowner open house.
Anonymous wrote:Treasurer wrote:Here is my thought on the matter. If you want to do more to the land than just ride the exisiting roads you need to be prepared to show that landowner other land we have permission to use and maintain the land.
You need to have a landowner open house.
I think that is a great idea, however a bit premature I suspect. I am leaning towards the advice given above about small steps.
Treasurer wrote:When you get to the trail creation and maintenance then you offer the come check out other property we have permission to make trails and maintain them.
To Whom It May Concern,
I am the President of the North East Willy's Jeep Organization, Maine Chapter. We are a restoration and recreation club interested in exploring un-maintained public roads. As a member of Tread Lightly, we believe in leaving the land better than we find it.
My purpose in contacting your organization is to offer our help in preserving the Sawyer Mountain area. In years past we have performed clean ups while we have enjoyed traveling the Sawyer Mountain Rd. Again last week we enjoyed the views offered by Sawyer Mountain Rd while removing a bunch of paper products and bottles. To this end we offer our help in partnership with your organization to perform clean up and maintenance of the road and trail network so future families will be able to enjoy the scenic views offered by Sawyer Mountain. We are also able to provide access for disabled people otherwise unable to enjoy the area. Since most of members live within 45 minutes of Sawyer Mountain we are also able to provide emergency services such as search, rescue and removal if the need ever arose.
I welcome the opportunity to meet with you and your organization to talk about how my group can assist in keeping the Sawyer Mountain area clean and safe for all our families to enjoy. Please contact me day or night.
Sincerely,
Scott Brown,
President NEWJO-Maine
30 Brown Drive
Dayton, Maine 04005
Home: 207-499-2990
Mobile: 207-252-6156
Nextel: 207-252-0601
Email: newjomaine@adelphia.net
SKEETER wrote:Treasurer wrote:When you get to the trail creation and maintenance then you offer the come check out other property we have permission to make trails and maintain them.
At the risk of asking a completely stupid (noob) question, I assume we have some good examples of this? Do we have anything closely matching this?
---- Francis Small Heritage Trust - Dick Jarrett <Jarrett@FSHT.org> wrote:
> Hello Scott,
>
> Thank you for your emails. I have been away so I have not been able to
> respond. We really appreciate your concern for the mountain and the trails,
> and as you have undoubtedly noticed, the trails are suffering from severe
> erosion. Much of the erosion has been due to poor logging and road building
> activities during the last 25 years, as well as recent ATV usage. We are
> currently exploring methods to arrest the erosion and hope to have a formal
> soil erosion plan in place soon.
>
> The Francis Small Heritage Trust has purchased over 1000 acres for
> public use in the past several years. In order to purchase this land,
> hundreds of local donors and many different conservation foundations have
> granted money to the Trust for this purpose. Several different conservation
> foundations have placed restrictions on the funds given to the Trust.
> Although we have successfully left open the lands for hiking, hunting, and
> snowmobiling (on existing trails), one of the restrictions placed on us is
> that we cannot allow vehicles (other than snowmobiles) on the lands where
> funds from these organizations have been used.
>
> The Trust has not gated roads or otherwise restricted usage, but, due to
> these agreements, has never actually given permission for any vehicle (other
> than snowmobiles on existing trails) on these parcels. We also have taken
> active legal steps to protect the beaver population near the discontinued
> Sawyer Mountain Road and have stopped illegal road building activities on
> Trust property on the mountain.
>
> Unfortunately, due to the increasing usage from ATVs, the erosion
> problems are increasing. Until recently, no one had ever approached the
> Trust looking for permission. However, due to the recent changes in state
> law, we have had some requests which we were required to turn down due to
> the agreements in place with donor foundations. Even without these
> restrictions, the mountain does contain very steep slopes, which, if made
> accessible for vehicular traffic, would drastically change the wilderness
> aspect of the area. Because of the increased unauthorized ATV traffic, the
> Trust will soon be posting the roads against vehicular traffic.
>
> In conclusion, while we regret that we must respond that we cannot allow
> such usage, I hope you can see the logic of the donor foundations that in
> the long run, preserving this wild area will be the best course of action.
> Without the help of those foundations, this land would have been sold to
> development groups which would have prevented all public usage when their
> housing developments were built. We do appreciate and recognize the
> responsible use (i.e. clean up drives, etc) that your group has performed in
> the past.
>
> Sincerely,
> Dick Jarrett,
> Treasurer, FSHT
>
>
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