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Postby tammylynn » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:07 pm

I think we are getting way OT here. The point of this thread was to discuss the meeting of the minds for EC4WDA & the NEA4WDC. From there we have gone to Coy Hill and UJ-which I would also correct to define that to be Joe K since the supposed issue is with him and not the club as a whole. IMO that is a different discussion entirely and obviously one that needs to be addressed offline.

I know Coy Hill is the icing on the cake that has moved some to warrant the need for a final-sit down and hash things out session. I just would hate to see the time during the Summit turn into a continuation of the recent posts on this thread because that was not the original intent of this meeting.

Seriously-who cares what HAS happened. Nothing can be done about it at this point. The damage is done...end of story. At this point it really doesn't matter who did or didn't do the damage. A project manager has been assigned to the specific plan for Coy Hill. Announcements have been made to address that and honestly-people are either on board or they are not. If they are not then Joe O. needs to decide how that is dealt with. It is really nobody else's concern unless he involves them.
In addition some have come together to organize the Summit. It has been expressed several times who is expected to attend and that should be it until that group decides they wish to include additional people. If your name wasn't on the list-respect that for now and be ready to help when they ask for it!

With regards to the he said she said and finger pointing-again MOVE ON! It doesn't matter at this point. However, if the supposed actions continue from now on-we can monitor the place and take action to support what is being done. People need to grow up and act like adults. If you have a problem with someone-don't go running to someone else-speak to your problem directly and settle it like grown men. It saddens me to see leaders and prospective leaders of organizations acting like this! I agree 100% with Dave's post because petty stuff like the drama he has been placed in the middle of is exactly what wears people down and it is unnecessary!
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Postby rblank » Fri Nov 16, 2007 4:53 pm

right Tammy.

It's this kind of bull crap that makes we want to spend more time fishing....except for the boat part. Image
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Postby Paul » Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:00 pm

People need to grow up and act like adults



they started it.
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Postby rblank » Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:12 pm

Tammy's finishing it.....
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Postby tammylynn » Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:49 pm

I didn't single anyone out..feeling guilty there Paul? :lol: You and Roger are starting to remind me of the two guys in the balcony on the Muppet Show. :)
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Postby JayZR2 » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:02 pm

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Postby tammylynn » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:19 pm

:hello: I LOVE them..well I love all the Muppets but especially those guys.
Alright back on track... :lol:

BTW-Paul you're the one with the huge nose and the unibrow. :P
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Postby Paul » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:20 pm

I've moved on, I think...sorry Friday night libation.
I'm for 2 things:
1) entertainment value
2) to be Joe O's punching bag/shoulder to lean on when he needs it.


....although, he's got a teen and a 4 year old at home so I think he's highly equipped to deal with anything that may cross his path.

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Postby Paul » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:21 pm

tammylynn wrote::hello: I LOVE them..well I love all the Muppets but especially those guys.
Alright back on track... :lol:

BTW-Paul you're the one with the huge nose and the unibrow. :P


odd

Beaker was always my favorite, I just can't for the life of me figure out why.
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Postby tammylynn » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:25 pm

Maybe because he was always being dominated by Dr. Honeydew? :shock:
I liked Beaker too. I could have a whole thread just on the Muppets.
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Postby Scott Hatch » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:36 pm

And what was that you said about OT :lol: ;)

A little humor is nice to liven the mood :) :up:
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Postby Paul » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:49 pm

They'll erase it before tomorrow morning.

Man, that reminds me <sniff> of the old days with shane, the stuff we used to post on neow from 10pm on friday saturday nights, just get wretched drunk funny and post funny stuff, wake up in the morning 9-10am and it would all magincally be gone. The guy was good,


to shane!!!!

(gulp-gulp)

God bless ya man.
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Postby Scott Hatch » Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:57 pm

Paul wrote:They'll erase it before tomorrow morning.

Man, that reminds me <sniff> of the old days with shane, the stuff we used to post on neow from 10pm on friday saturday nights, just get wretched drunk funny and post funny stuff, wake up in the morning 9-10am and it would all magincally be gone. The guy was good,


to shane!!!!

(gulp-gulp)

God bless ya man.


Vickie and I were just laughing about him and his antics, I hope he has some great wheeling spots lined for us when its our time to join him
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Postby Paul » Sat Nov 17, 2007 12:08 am

(I'm not religious but) the lord always picks the best ones that's for sure.

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Postby tammylynn » Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:58 pm

Paul wrote:They'll erase it before tomorrow morning.

Man, that reminds me <sniff> of the old days with shane, the stuff we used to post on neow from 10pm on friday saturday nights, just get wretched drunk funny and post funny stuff, wake up in the morning 9-10am and it would all magincally be gone. The guy was good,


to shane!!!!

(gulp-gulp)

God bless ya man.


It is sacrilegious to erase the Muppets...lol and I was not drunk. Maybe I shouldn't admit that. I said hello to Shane today as we passed by. :( Something tells me he was out there with us today and I thank him for protecting my Jeep and allowing me to show up the men! :lol:
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Postby jsongy » Sat Nov 17, 2007 10:01 pm

odd

Beaker was always my favorite, I just can't for the life of me figure out why.[/quote]

That is odd you'd like beaker - I don't remember him talking! 8)
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Postby Zaedock » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:31 pm

Paul wrote:I've moved on, I think...sorry Friday night libation.
I'm for 2 things:
1) entertainment value
2) to be Joe O's punching bag/shoulder to lean on when he needs it.


....although, he's got a teen and a 4 year old at home so I think he's highly equipped to deal with anything that may cross his path.

salut

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My wife is Puerto Rican too :mad2:
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Postby Zaedock » Sat Nov 17, 2007 11:35 pm

Paul wrote:They'll erase it before tomorrow morning.

Man, that reminds me <sniff> of the old days with shane, the stuff we used to post on neow from 10pm on friday saturday nights, just get wretched drunk funny and post funny stuff, wake up in the morning 9-10am and it would all magincally be gone. The guy was good,


to shane!!!!

(gulp-gulp)

God bless ya man.


Wow, it's funny you mention Shane. Last night I was getting ready for todays BSJ run, going over maps, etc.. I pulled up some pics from one of the first NEA snow runs. Shane was trying to make snow angels in 2 feet of snow 8)
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Postby mrfreakinwhite » Sun Nov 18, 2007 7:35 am

Zaedock wrote:
Paul wrote:I've moved on, I think...sorry Friday night libation.
I'm for 2 things:
1) entertainment value
2) to be Joe O's punching bag/shoulder to lean on when he needs it.


....although, he's got a teen and a 4 year old at home so I think he's highly equipped to deal with anything that may cross his path.

salut

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My wife is Puerto Rican too :mad2:

Now I'm confused.
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Postby Treasurer » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:38 am

I remember Shane doing that. It was a great time in the snow.
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Postby ToxicTurtle » Sun Nov 18, 2007 9:40 am

mrfreakinwhite wrote:
Zaedock wrote:
Paul wrote:I've moved on, I think...sorry Friday night libation.
I'm for 2 things:
1) entertainment value
2) to be Joe O's punching bag/shoulder to lean on when he needs it.


....although, he's got a teen and a 4 year old at home so I think he's highly equipped to deal with anything that may cross his path.

salut

:paul:


My wife is Puerto Rican too :mad2:

Now I'm confused.


Don't know too many PR women, do ya? :lol:
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Postby mike_belben » Mon Nov 26, 2007 2:33 am

OEM hot tempers.
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Postby mike_belben » Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:05 pm

so can we verify the date/time/location of this event? no final changes i didnt notice or anything?
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Postby Paul » Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:50 pm

12 noon saturday the 1st.
Agenda:

Introductions

Trails

Action:
Compare our trail lists (minus private property). Whatever we share, discuss the legalities and sources involved. Is it open? Is it questionable? Decide to take it off the table or not. Leave the rest on the table.

Purpose:
We need a definitive list because if we don’t even know what we have, how can we tell the states we need more? Also for the Draft Trail Management Plan

People

Action:
List clubs and estimates of members.

Purpose:
Resource management

NE TRAIL MANAGEMENT PLAN (Rough Draft)

Action:
Assign clubs to trails…sort of an “adopt a trail” program. “X” club from NEA and “X” club from EC adopts “Y” trail. These clubs will be the stewards for that trail, environmentally and publicly. Of course club numbers and location would need to be accounted for, meaning NEA may have 2 clubs to 1 of EC’s on a given location or vice versa.
Purpose: Better coordination during land use issues, quicker response to negative publicity, and easier to facilitate clean-ups and/or environmental concerns.

Action:
Create a usage matrix showing what clubs will be using what trails/roads throughout the year. Private trails included (although “private” would be the title of the trail).

Purpose:
Knowing what clubs will be where, the Associations will have a greater understanding of what trails are seeing over-use and will be able to suggest alternatives.

Action:
Make sure members have or carry NEA or EC cards/stickers/something…

Purpose:
Identification during trail runs


Anyone have any additions to the menu?
There's not too many public trails out there, gonna be a short meeting.

I got some yellow signs I want to hang at OFR if anyone wants to head out with me afterwords, I'm bringing my DD and a ladder to put them up.

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Postby JayZR2 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:31 am

I'll take a walk with ya Paul.
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Postby mike_belben » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:02 am

cool.. this is the place we're talking about right?
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Postby JayZR2 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:33 am

yep
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Postby tammylynn » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:51 pm

Who is printing off agendas-if needed? Are we supposed to have lunch before we come or are we eating during the meeting-since it is at noon?
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Postby adk_tj » Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:57 pm

I'll be draggin my son with me (he's 10), so I'll probably eat there. I'll print what I have (basically the above, plus all the trails me and Dave can compile, both private and public).

Now that Paul's coming, I assume no strippers? :wink: (kidding...) :lol:

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Postby Paul » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:11 pm

Tammy will strip for us, she's good like that, she's a regular at the NEA meetings.

:P :P :P


(I'm so getting kicked in the nuts) :lol:
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Postby JayZR2 » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:17 pm

I can print agenda's for the group if needed.
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Postby tammylynn » Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:31 pm

Paul wrote:Tammy will strip for us, she's good like that, she's a regular at the NEA meetings.

:P :P :P


(I'm so getting kicked in the nuts) :lol:


How would you know? You never come to any of the NEA meetings! You sure you want to introduce your 10 year old to Paul? :lol:
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Postby rblank » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:28 am

tammylynn wrote:How would you know? You never come to any of the NEA meetings! You sure you want to introduce your 10 year old to Paul? :lol:


double ZINGGGGGG!!!!!!
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Postby JayZR2 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:36 am

I love zingers.
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Postby Paul » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:56 am

Meetings are lame. Same thing over and over.

I cut trails, I do recon...I'm a blue collar man now, much more fun. I'm all about the loppers, chainsaw and engineering tape.

I go to meetings and everyone looks at me like "lets ask Paul" and I'm always like "wtf are you looking at me for? My arse looks just like my elbow"

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Postby Treasurer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:59 am

Meetings allow people to help that cannot do your trail cuts.
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Postby adk_tj » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:07 am

I like meetings because they make me feel like I'm doing stuff, even though I sit on my ass all day doing nothing. People say "Steve, are you busy?" and I say "Hell yeah, I'm planning a meeting, then I'll be promoting the meeting, then I need to attend the meeting, and of course after the meeting we need to meet to discuss what we accomplished at the meeting. When all is said and done, we'll need to meet to find out how to make the meetings more productive. See ya'll tomorrow for the pre-meeting meeting. Bring a chicken and some tape."

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Postby Paul » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:20 am

My wifes work is like that. She's constantly in meetings, 4 hours, 6 hours, its nuts. I don't know how she gets any work done.
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Postby Treasurer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 11:45 am

That is what accounting slaves do while the meetings take place.
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Postby JayZR2 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:13 pm

I do both. Meetings & trail cuts/clean ups/recon.
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Postby Paul » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:26 pm

JayZR2 wrote:I do both. Meetings & trail cuts/clean ups/recon.


Everything but wheel! :lol: Yep, you're a shoe-in for our next President. :lol:
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Postby Treasurer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:33 pm

Remember the NEA4WDC is a business. Wheeling does not make an executive officer better. Good leadership skills and serving the members, makes for a good preasident. I could care less about wheeling at this point in time. I care about raising money and keeping the best set of books in the OHRV community. I am famous without being seen at every wheeling event. LOL
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Postby JayZR2 » Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:42 pm

Paul wrote:
JayZR2 wrote:I do both. Meetings & trail cuts/clean ups/recon.


Everything but wheel! :lol: Yep, you're a shoe-in for our next President. :lol:


I joked to Rosco at the last meeting I was a shoe in because Sunshine is still broken and that is a prerequisite to being pres. :lol: Having a broken rig.
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Postby Treasurer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 1:58 pm

Hey I have a tow vehicle and car trailer. I am almost there.
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Postby markdupont » Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:06 pm

I'm not going to be able to make the Saturday meeting, sorry folks.
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Postby Treasurer » Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:10 pm

I cannot resist typing this. Silence is golden.
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Postby markdupont » Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:59 am

Treasurer wrote:I cannot resist typing this. Silence is golden.


Bastid... just for that I'm gonna show up... wifey says this is too important and cancelled my comittments
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Postby Paul » Thu Nov 29, 2007 12:00 pm

I might bag it too, something has come up:

http://www.northcountry-auctions.com/Advantage2007.htm

you guys don't really need me there, I know no public trails.
Keep me in charge of the gutter, I'll draft a management plan and submit it before the meeting...I hope.

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Postby tammylynn » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:38 pm

What a shocker.... :shock:

What is the final agenda? Is it the one above-just want to make sure I have an accurate one before I print anything.
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Postby adk_tj » Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:41 pm

tammylynn wrote:What a shocker.... :shock:

What is the final agenda? Is it the one above-just want to make sure I have an accurate one before I print anything.


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