PatriotJeep wrote:The out side tire logo has been done before 20+ years ago I used it as the New England 4 Wheelers logo.
tammylynn wrote:I think it looks great, but I would probably make the Jeep a bit more generic unless you already have connections with the printer. I'd think you'd have to get permission from Jeep to use the actual Rubi pic.
PatriotJeep wrote:The out side tire logo has been done before 20+ years ago I used it as the New England 4 Wheelers logo.
tammylynn wrote:Perhaps because Jeep owns the Rubi and the name Jeep on anything! I don't know that you need permission but I'd check into it before I started printing mass quantities of anything with the logo...especially if you intend to sell merchandise.
Sporin wrote:This is not a reflection on your idea or Pshop skills, but just from a practical standpoint, that is unprintable.
Keep working at it though, logo design is a process.... simplify, simplify, simplify.
Sporin wrote:My sarcasm was not clear I guess... of course it's not actually "unprintable" ... anything is printable for a price.
I'm not being a jerk, I'm trying to lend advice. I've made my living as a graphic designer for 15 years, and my first job out of college was at a screen printer.
The first question out of ANY sticker or Tshirt printer's mouth will be "How many colors is it?"
What you have there is a "full color" design. What it means is that the 4 printed colors (Cyan, Magenta, Yellow & Black) in various screen densities, overlay each other to create all the colors and the design.
Many sticker places don't even print CMYK process, and the ones that do usually only do large quantities. Same with Tshirt printers.
Generally you pay by the color. 1-color, say just black on a white sticker background, is the cheapest. Double the colors and it goes up higher. ANd rpinting CMYK for a process picture is more complicated then printing 4 chosen spot colors because there is a lot of post-production work to be done to get the sticker or shirt to look like the art.
To give you an example, 250 of our Yankee Toys stickers, which are 1 color (black) printed on bright yellow vinyl 3" rounds, was $255.
Like I said, I'm not being snide, good luck with your project, I genuinely hope it works out for you.
tammylynn wrote:Perhaps because Jeep owns the Rubi and the name Jeep on anything! I don't know that you need permission but I'd check into it before I started printing mass quantities of anything with the logo...especially if you intend to sell merchandise.
Ltrain wrote:tammylynn wrote:Perhaps because Jeep owns the Rubi and the name Jeep on anything! I don't know that you need permission but I'd check into it before I started printing mass quantities of anything with the logo...especially if you intend to sell merchandise.
I highly doubt this .... seeing we have a a symbiotic relationship with the company. Basically we are promoting the company for them, not cutting there throat. The main reason we don't let guys with Toyotas join our club ... god forbid the gas pedal sticks.
Rubicon is generic....Jeep on the other hand is specific that would mean Rubicon Express is infringing.
I would imagine that jeep has tradmarked there 7 slot grille and everyone in the world who creates a t shirt or logo would be in violation. When you see hummer making H3's with 7 slot grilles then i would show some concern.
But thanks for the help .... anyway!
Ltrain wrote:The love in here is overwhelming ..... I can feel it.
To get back on topic .... What do you all think about the logo.
(**Hint Hint - Looks Good!)
Ltrain wrote:tammylynn wrote:Perhaps because Jeep owns the Rubi and the name Jeep on anything! I don't know that you need permission but I'd check into it before I started printing mass quantities of anything with the logo...especially if you intend to sell merchandise.
I highly doubt this .... seeing we have a a symbiotic relationship with the company. Basically we are promoting the company for them, not cutting there throat. The main reason we don't let guys with Toyotas join our club ... god forbid the gas pedal sticks.
Rubicon is generic....Jeep on the other hand is specific that would mean Rubicon Express is infringing.
I would imagine that jeep has tradmarked there 7 slot grille and everyone in the world who creates a t shirt or logo would be in violation. When you see hummer making H3's with 7 slot grilles then i would show some concern.
But thanks for the help .... anyway!
Scott Hatch wrote:Adding to that, Norm had told me about the issues he had with using the name"Jeep" and selling Jeep merchandise. After All Things Jeep kicked them over a % they were happy
Ryan wrote:The Logo is super detailed, I kind of like it, but take this from a club with a colorful logo and 70 bazillion fonts. On shirts so much ink is needed they crack easily.
And Hummer has used the 7 slot design from the start, H1, H2, Ect. Jeep did take them to court and lost. I am sure MILLIONS were spent between the two in legal fees. I wouldn't worry to much about it on the club level though.
Paul wrote:Ltrain wrote:tammylynn wrote:Perhaps because Jeep owns the Rubi and the name Jeep on anything! I don't know that you need permission but I'd check into it before I started printing mass quantities of anything with the logo...especially if you intend to sell merchandise.
I highly doubt this .... seeing we have a a symbiotic relationship with the company. Basically we are promoting the company for them, not cutting there throat. The main reason we don't let guys with Toyotas join our club ... god forbid the gas pedal sticks.
Rubicon is generic....Jeep on the other hand is specific that would mean Rubicon Express is infringing.
I would imagine that jeep has tradmarked there 7 slot grille and everyone in the world who creates a t shirt or logo would be in violation. When you see hummer making H3's with 7 slot grilles then i would show some concern.
But thanks for the help .... anyway!
You would think....but that makes sense....they can and have sued us in the past.
mrfreakinwhite wrote: I would think the goal of a club sticker is to help promote the club and make your members' stickers recognizable to others, therefore simpler is more effective.
Ltrain wrote:The love in here is overwhelming ..... I can feel it.
To get back on topic .... What do you all think about the logo.
(**Hint Hint - Looks Good!)
tammylynn wrote:Ltrain wrote:The love in here is overwhelming ..... I can feel it.
To get back on topic .... What do you all think about the logo.
(**Hint Hint - Looks Good!)
In my original post I did stroke your egos and say it looks nice because it does. As far as stickers go it is probably fine. But for use on anything else in a printed version it isn't very practical. I've worked in media design to include logos, printing, publishing, copyrights, etc. I'm not challenging your designs to be a jerk, I am just throwing out something to consider because I know a little about it, as do others here who've been there and done that. Ultimately you all will do as you wish and in that case...good luck and best wishes.
XJ Maki wrote:I think it looks pretty good and I don't mind the photo part, I figure you can always grayscale it or run it through a PS filter or just get someone to sketch a line drawing in order to print tshirts and stuff in the future without having to redo the whole design.
The only thing I really don't like about it is the R/C toy car tire (as jsongy pointed out) I think that looks very, very....odd.
But it's your club - your logo - so if you like it that's what really matters.
Ltrain wrote:XJ Maki wrote:I think it looks pretty good and I don't mind the photo part, I figure you can always grayscale it or run it through a PS filter or just get someone to sketch a line drawing in order to print tshirts and stuff in the future without having to redo the whole design.
The only thing I really don't like about it is the R/C toy car tire (as jsongy pointed out) I think that looks very, very....odd.
But it's your club - your logo - so if you like it that's what really matters.
Kudos to you ..... Exactly our thoughts! But on the other hand with the hopes that were are within our legal rights.
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